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What are your beliefs?

Fri Jan 10, 2014, 4:48 PM
*WARNING: I do NOT mean to offend anyone or any religion. This rant is just me spewing out my thoughts and confusion. Thank you :)



So I'm taking some classes for winterim and one of them is an art history course on Islamic Art and Architecure. Now his past week all we have talked about is religion, primarily on Christianity vs Muslims.

Now I grew up in a Christian home where I was told that I needed to believe in God or I should be ashamed of myself. However, we stopped going to church when I was very young. So I grew up not really paying any attention to religion and learned more about science in school. I learned all about what we are made up of and how we are created. Nothing about why we are here. We are mammals, evolved from single cell organisms that have the correct variables to promote life. We just exist. There is no reason. But God supposedly gave us a purpose in life, one that changes variously throughout each religion and each Bible. So which one is right? Which purpose are we born to accomplish? Or is there really no purpose at all? Do things really happen because "that's the way they are suppose to happen, because God made it that way" or is it just because of our own choices, our own beliefs and what we chose to believe in. I've thought more about religion and my point of view on life in the last week then I have in my entire life. I'm very indecisive on what I believe in, so I don't entirely know if I truly believe in God or if I believe in science. At any rate, I've come to a stand still. Are we God's creations, or are we simply organic molecules that evolved and began natural selection?

I am interested in your point of view. What religion are you and what are your beliefs. What do you think the purpose of humanity is?


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ENZZOK Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
I was raise like a christian but  I always wondering what is the true and that is something very difficult to find, people can not find the truth without asking questions, and I think questioning your religion (or any) is good, we can not be just lambs and believe everything they tell us. Im a buddist (for now) i think find you faith is a process...buddhism teach that everithing is inside of you not outside, there is no power outside of you, you are the only one who can change things, if buddhism believe in a power is the power of the human bean, maybe you hear about Karma, that is an ancient concept even before buddhism talks about the things you do bad and good and that things has consequences. Buddha is an state in the human condition not a fatty monk (like we use to think) is an state inside of all human bean and by praying you "loose" that state. I think is important to have faith but not necessarily religion. The instinct tell you what is good and what is wrong and you have to hear that instinct so you can pick any religion (or not) the most important is that you choose what makes you happy.
Thanks for posting my work! btw :)
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mippieArt Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Mmm always a fun subject. Well I am a pagan. Reason why I converted to paganism almost 10 years ago, was because all of this god gave you a purpose but science says differently shit confused the hell out of me. Everything just always felt out of place for me. I mean it's a natural instinct for us to feel that there is some greater force at work here, but the whole idea of a man on the clouds was just too far fetched for me. So when somebody introduced paganism to me, it automatically jsut clicked into place and made perfect sense to me. 

I believe that yes there is a greater power than us, humans. But I believe this is a global energy that exist because of human existence. In science we learn that no energy is ever lost, only carried over from one form to another. And that's what I believe in my spiritual life also. When a person dies, his or her energy does not just disappear or go to heaven or some shit. It becomes part of the universal energy around us. This energy exist again for us to use and manipulate in order to assist in certain circumstances. And there is no ONE GOD, but many. All of the old deities are now seen as pagan gods. I personally do not pray to all of them, but I pray to nature and the universe. I pray that the universe and spirits of old will lend me the energy and power that I need to achieve certain things. 

And that's it, hope it makes sense to you. 
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nikkidoodlesx3 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014
Wow , that's very interesting!
I feel like I am where you were 10 years ago, confused and out of place, don't really know exactly what I believe in or what I should believe in. That's another reason I posted this, I am interested in all the different religions and maybe finally figuring out where I belong. :)
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mippieArt Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Well have a look into paganism and the belief system. There are a few of us who are your friends here on dA. We have a group also CovenOfShadows , but the we choose who to invite into the group. Obviously it's not a public group. But you can see who of us are pagans and you might want to speak to them more about it also. I don't think they would mind. But at the end of the day, you should believe in whatever you are comfortable with!! The most important thing with beliefs and religion is that you REALLY believe in it, and that won't be so if you're not comfortable with the belief system.
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dmaabsta Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
I'm a Christian.  I believe in salvation through Jesus Christ, and I feel that the purpose of humanity is to love God with all of your heart mind and soul; love your fellow man as yourself, and to tell others of the gospel.
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UnKnown-Designer092 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually this topic cannot be discussed here on DA ,especially when it's about believing in god or not, anyway am gonna try to give you something from an Islamic view.

First, you are asking about the reason why humans are on earth or what is the purpose, well, the Islamic answer is from The Quran ,ِAllah says "And I have not created the jinn and the men except that they should worship Me" so as an Islamic view men are on earth to worship Allah.

Second, you are talking about science, in Islam the science is the most important thing, Allah told us to worship him but this can't be done just by praying for Allah and do other religious things, you need to learn, to get knowledge, to build the earth to really be serving Allah.

Well ,this is all i can say here ,i might be wrong about these ideas because am not a specialist in these topics and as i said these topics needs a very long discussion .......

Anyway hope this would help you ...... 
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nikkidoodlesx3 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
Thank you for your point of view, why can this topic not be discussed on dA? I was purely asking what everyone's beliefs are out of curiosity.
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UnKnown-Designer092 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh, I thought that you want for some topic or for a research, that's why i said it can't be discussed on DA, but if it's just about curiosity then it's an easy thing to talk about ......
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Hama-Girl Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was christened but that in no way makes me religious. You're too young to be able to choose when you're christened. 

You say that you don't know whether to believe science or religion, and I think the major mistake being made here is interpreting science as a belief- when it's fact. Science is not just an interpretation, it's empirical evidence, it's proven, it's true- that's how the world works. 

God is a belief. Religion is a belief. There is no proof for any of it, there's nothing to say that there is a God or indeed, there's not a God. However, religious people would use the argument that God was the one who made the world as it is, and science is just our way of understanding our world as God made it.

Personally, I don't believe in God. I might do, I might find it comforting, if it weren't for the vast amounts of suffering, disease, war, and poverty there is. I cannot believe in a greater being, that is so powerful as to design such complicated mechanisms of life, yet cannot absolve us of disease. Take something like cystic fibrosis- it's a single base pair of DNA that's wrong, that causes a debilitating, life shortening, horrible disease in children and young adults. If he was so great and good, why could he not just solve that?

Also, why would there be a God when there hasn't even been humans here that long, in the relative history of the earth? Dinosaurs didn't have religions!

Pah. No, we're here just because life had the potential to develop here on earth, and entirely coincidentally life arrived here on a comet in the form of a few biological molecules that gave rise to everything else on our planet. We have no purpose aside from to keep our species alive.
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Slug22 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
I'm not anything, never christened and never forced to believe anything so here's my take on religion. Religion's are a basic guide to how to get along in life, the rules regulations etc of how to behave in order to be accepted and live well and most of them point basically toward the same points in life: be a good husband/ wife, follow the rules, go to work, believe in god (whichever that may be).

Most of these rules are similar in content and on average are a good guide to life in itself. Religion also offers support to people in times of tragedy, personal weakness and genuine need and usually does this in a good healthy way withing the religious community, a sort of prop for those who need support.

Where religions fail, however, is where they come face to face with other religions. Religion turns to dogma neither side is right or wrong even if they find themselves disagreeing when taking similar stand points... ultimately the major god oriented religions believe in the same god if from slightly differing perspectives and often it is social and political history that drive the rift and not theology.

What I hate about religion is the way it is used by those in power as a vessel by which to make his "clan", for want of a better word, dominant in society. They talk about bringing back morality, dignity and destroying the depraved and damning the needy. All they really want is to throw a blanket over the dysfunction they perceive and pretend it never happens even though their policies are the cogs that drive the machinery and they themselves are the receivers of the end product... cheap labour and easy sex and an underprivileged class who will sell their souls for a penny.

In the end we are all so completely different that in order to "fit in" we gather round the nearest meeting pole and try to be part of the crowd... if you need that support then that is all well and good!
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